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Real Internet Freedom, Not Regulation
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The Internet is highly competitive. Traditional “phone” and traditional “cable” companies have been locked in an intense struggle to win customers, and wireless is rapidly becoming another viable alternative to wired broadband connections. If a private company blocked or censored Internet traffic maliciously it would lose its customers. If government exercised such control over a government-controlled Internet, there would be no place to turn.

The envisioned burden-of-proof for required network management practices is unreasonably restrictive and will prevent business models that may be economically efficient, impose uncertainty, and create litigation risks. Such restrictions would lower the rate of return on investments in building network capacity to the point that some of those investments would no longer make economic sense.

The Internet would then either remain crippled or be “rescued” with taxpayer subsidies, which would inevitably bring government control and politicization along with government ownership. Indeed, this “public utility” model is the desired outcome of many proponents of regulation, including former White House adviser Susan Crawford and Free Press founder Robert McChesney.

Such a transformation of the Internet into a government-controlled public utility is a major policy change that should be debated in Congress, the legitimately elected legislative branch of government. The Commission should not on its own set into motion regulatory changes that will force us down this path.

I am especially concerned that the Commission is already contemplating content restrictions, such as the suggestion under paragraph 77 of the NPRM that the Commission may ultimately be the arbiter of which competing interests should be prioritized.

Advocates of so-called “net neutrality” have been ringing alarm bells now for so many years (starting with the November 19, 2002 letter to the Commission from the so-called “Coalition of Broadband Users and Innovators”) that their claims should be heavily discounted. In the absence of concrete evidence of not just discriminatory but anti-competitive behavior, there is simply no rationale for imposing new regulations that could have the effect of slowing down the great engine of innovation, growth, and expression that the lightly regulated, competitive Internet has become.
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sagacityfilms 2 months ago
Net Neutrality is one "regulation" that will ensure Real Internet Freedom. I run a small business and also do a lot of political activism and am completely dependent on the duopoly of companies in my area for my work. Many other areas there's even a monopoly on broadband. Some basic common carrier rules are absolutely necessary to ensure that my business is allowed to compete in the marketplace (a cornerstone of capitialism) and that my political beliefs are allowed to compete as well (a cornerstone of democracy).
lenscap10 2 months ago
'Open Internet' and 'Net Neutraliy'...hah, ya right. What a joke. Good marketing spin though, as I'm sure many will buy into it.
sagacityfilms 2 months ago
Yes, open internet. Open to everyone enforced by net neutrality, which would prevent the monopolies and duopolies from closing it off. No marketing, just common sense and the majority of people even remotely familiar with the issue do "buy into net neutrality". Including Free Press Founder Robert McChesney, whom the author of this comment ironically quotes.
brian252 2 months ago
This is just another government attempt to take more control over American freedom. I, for one, do not believe a single thing that comes from our elected (and corrupt) government officials.

Talk about a monopoly? You can't have a bigger monolopoly than the United States government. Everything thing the government touches, social security, medicare, medicade, the postal service, stimulus plan?, taxes, you name it, the government either destroys it, or it becomes so corrupt that it can't be sustained.

I am tired of the government becoming involved in every aspect of our lives.
openinternet 2 months ago
The irony is that "Net Neutrality" is anything but.

The really sad thing is that those pushing this destructive policy include big corporations like Google, who see short term commercial advantage in supporting it.

"Net Neutrality" explicitly seeks to ensure that all traffic is treated "equally" on the net. Think about that - some of the services that you want - like VoIP - REQUIRE tweaking of the internet to ensure that VoIP traffic gets priority. There are lots of other services like that, where without the sort of prioritization that telecoms are working on - and want to charge for - simply won't work.

"Net Neutrality" effectively kills of an entire area of innovation and technical advance. One of the few areas of the economy where the USA is clearly in the lead and doing well, and we are going to screw it up.

Tell your friends. "Net Neutrality" is not only not going to accomplish what it seeks to do, but will kill off internet innovation by precluding the profits that drive it.

In the bargain, we will give the government (FCC) the power to harass/shut-down any network provider or operator that manages his network in a way that is displeasing to "the authorities".

Please explain how this is "open" or "free", or "better".
isochronous 2 months ago
openinternet, how much are you being paid to shill for the telecom companies?

If the telecoms were struggling as it is to maintain a healthy profit margin, that would be reason to consider your point, but as it stands, telecom companies are some of the most profitable in the market today. Rather than re-investing that money in their infrastructure and network, they hire lobbyists to convince the government that things are fine as they are.

Net neutrality insures that anyone should be able to use any net-based service regardless of their ISP or service tier. The extent of "regulation" will be the FCC telling companies like Comcast to knock it off when they get caught interfering with the network traffic they're being paid to carry. It's simply telling companies to leave the thing alone, the way it is now, and don't try to make more money by squeezing higher subscription fees out of your customers for the same service they already have. It also insures innovation rather than crippling it by guaranteeing that the giant telecom companies can't dominate the market simply by restricting access to their competitors. After all, what benefit would Time Warner have in allowing its users to go to comcast.com? Without regulation, the monopolistic practices of the currently telecommunications industry would only get worse, not better.
jamesstikler 2 months ago
I'd like to post the one article you actually referenced in your propaganda and note that taken in context the referenced paragraph states that it would keep telecom companies from deleting my emails, redirecting my web browsing, and slowing down things I care about in order to speed up things they want to promote. way to mislead the public. I hope you're paid well.

75. Congress has recognized that the Internet “offer[s] a forum for a true diversity of political
discourse, unique opportunities for cultural development, and myriad avenues for intellectual activity.”173
Numerous judicial opinions have noted the Internet’s potential for facilitating speech.174 The bipartisan
Knight Commission recently reported that the Internet has brought about “new forms of collaboration
between full-time journalists and the general citizenry,” opening the age of networked journalism.175 It
also observed that “[p]olitical leaders and many government agencies are staking out ambitious agendas
for openness,” and “[t]he potential for using technology to create a more transparent and connected democracy has never seemed brighter.”176 At the same time, however, broadband Internet access service
providers today could block, slow, or redirect access to websites espousing public policy positions that
the broadband Internet access service provider considers contrary to its interests, or controversial content
to which the service provider wants to avoid any connection. Broadband Internet access service providers
also have the ability to delete or hinder email based on inspection of its contents.177 Because broadband
Internet access service providers are not government actors, the First Amendment does not directly
govern their actions.178

76. Proponents therefore argue that the Commission should take steps to preserve the Internet
“as a general purpose technology that supports wide open speech.” 179 Others have argued that “the
openness of networks [is] essential to meeting community information needs,”180 and that the Internet
could be conceived of as a “new marketplace of ideas”181—a “core common infrastructure” that “giv[es]
users the capacity to participate in building our common informational and cultural environment and the
freedom to construct their personal information environment that is the greatest promise of networked
communications.”182

77. Some proponents of oversight have thus argued that the Commission should apply a
standard similar to strict scrutiny to content-based discrimination, to ensure that any discrimination be
carefully tailored to serve the public interest, not merely a private interest.183 (As discussed below, we do
not adopt this standard in the draft rules we propose. See discussion at paragraph 137.) Some parties further argue that broadband Internet access service providers should not be left to balance among
competing public interests themselves, but rather that the Commission (or other government entity) must
be the one to do so.184 In support of such oversight, proponents note that the government has undertaken
a role in promoting communications technologies as a channel for speech and democratic content in other
contexts, such as the cable “must carry” rules.
openinternet 2 months ago
I run a small ISP. One of the beauties of the internet is that it makes it relatively easy to do things that used to be really expensive - publish your ideas, for instance.

Adding "net neutrality" rules will inject FCC regulators into the mix, and force me to hire lawyers just to figure out if what I am doing is legal, every time I change a router configuration, or tell my customers that they can't run some application on my servers. Believe it. Read the proposed rules.

My ISP is small enough that if it comes to that, I will have to shut down (about 40 customers, run from my house. Mostly friends, relatives and local businesses).

In general, this is how it works. This sort of regulation is shouldered well by those will beefy legal staffs, like comcast, but is often fatal to the "little guy".

"Net Neutrality" simply gives the FCC the power to control the internet to a much greater degree than it does today. Promises of "neutrality" may or may not come true. Abuse of that power - to the benefit of those who are politically connected - is certain.

Supporters of "Net Neutrality" are naive. This is a bad thing. It should be opposed.
nlandas 2 months ago
The Government is the ultimate monopoly. By pushing for the Internet to become a public utility the those in our Government hope to gain ultimate control over it. You think the large providers are not being competitive enough, wait until the Government control it.

All I have to do is look at National Grid and the New York Power authority to see how poorly "natural" monopolies function. Ultra high costs and poor service are par for the course.

This legislation is unnecessary and while it feels good on the surface the truth behind it is far from the idealistic views being painted by its supporters.

If it was as simple as is being described the regulation would be as simple as this - No broadband provider will prioritize the traffic of another provider of a specific or competing protocol over its own traffic. For example, if company A offers Voice over IP service and the providers also offers Voice over IP service - the provider may not prioritize it's traffic over company A. Providers must handle similar traffic types equally.

This is not to say that traffic of differing types say Bittorrent traffic cannot be put at a much lower priority than other more timing critical traffic types.
rwing51 2 months ago
This is just another obama left wing big government take over attempt. Don't be fooled. By pushing for the Internet to become a public utility the those in our Government hope to gain ultimate control over it. This WILL include content control. IE. if they do not like your view on something it wont get posted. We do NOT need any more nanny state interference. Remember, "If it's NOT broken, don't FIX IT". Can we say "the fairness doctrine"? That was any thing but "Fair".
takeymctaker 2 months ago
@nlandas: The government is not a monopoly -- Democratic elections, and our system of checks and balances in government, is expressly designed to resist any one person or group gaining monopoly power. Term limits make all forms of government power temporary.

AT&T is a monopoly. Corporations have no term limits -- they don't even die. They have exclusive rights to wires and equipment, and use those to extract monopoly rents from people, who need the services they provide exclusively in their area.

Learn the difference.

We need our representative government to enforce Network Neutrality, as a check against the private monopoly powers that wish to take the Internet away from us. Americans paid for the Internet via a combination of taxes and monopoly rents, and our representatives have a right to regulate it, so that it is not stolen by private monopoly corporations.
reddogs88 2 months ago
To insure Freedom there must be regulatory restraint, free markets, and private ownership. The Internet needs to remain free of Government control. "Open Internet" or "Net Neutrality" are code words for the Socialists (Democrats) who want to take control of the people. They want to destroy our Freedom. Vote against the establishment.
pitschni 2 months ago
The Internet is competitive just like cable or satellite TV is competitive. Which is exactly why HBO, Showtime are now just part of basic packages and do not cost extra. Oh, wait they do charge for them still.

Will anyone of you who are against this actually learn some economics? There are two options for the industries, once one company either starts charging for "extras" (what used to be free)all the other companies can either A) follow suit; maintains the status quo and they get more money or B) refuse and start a price war (which means less money).

What do you think they are going to choose? Hint: Look at the TV market.

Dar 1 month ago
It seems most who favor this Net Neutrality idea are lacking in an understanding of economics.

What is the fundamental thing we learn in economics once we grok supply and demand? If you mess with the free market, you can only make things worse.

People seem to want us to live in fear, I guess because they do. If we don't control people with laws, things might not be under our control!!! Oh, no, somebody is doing something and I didn't force him to do that!!! Why be afraid if people chose to buy or sell other than what you want in your utopia?

Come on people. Relax in liberty. Let the market work. If people really want a certain quality of Internet services, it will come. There will likely be innovations we never thought of.

We know from history that government interference can make things a LOT worse. It is hard for governments to back off from controlling us.
pitschni 1 month ago
Dar, I hope you are getting paid by some telecom company, it would not be good for my mental health to know that people who are just that ignorant and will actively work this hard against their own interest.

You, obviously, know nothing of economics. A completely open and free market only allocates resources efficiently when every buyer and every seller is a price taker. In other words no company nor customer can influence the price or quality of the good/service. Most areas you have a 2, maybe 3 choices. This is not an open and competitive market. I could go on, talk about how the set up costs alone would make it next to impossible for a new comer to just pop into the market but you don't care about what economics actually says, you have your myopic view of it and that is what you will keep using.

If you don't think government regulations can help, why don't you look into what factory work was like before labor laws. Or read the Jungle to see what a meat processing plant was like before government regulation. Or, why don't you look into the company towns of the late 1800s, and see what unbridled 'liberty' looks like.
openinternet 1 month ago
Nothing good can come of name calling and insults.

Economics has become a highly politicized discipline, which is unhelpful in this sort of discussion. There is lots of disagreement among economists about things like "perfect" markets, and how much the real world resembles them, and also on the difference between causation and correlation.

To follow up on your example, government labor laws came about at roughly the same time as improvements in workplace conditions. Many argue, as I do, that there was very little government cause there, only a general change in conditions, and politicians were particularly successful in claiming credit.

The situation with the internet is very similar. Many posters here are under the false impression that the internet was a government creature, when in fact the government (DARPA et al) played a minor role in its overall development. This is all well documented.
Dar 1 month ago
Ah, pitschni, I see you can repeat the big words you find in your economics book. But do you understand the meaning?

The efficiency argument concerning monopolies is overrated. Allocation of resources is better with the monopoly business than without its existence. Also, adding government interference can only decrease efficiency.

In most cases monopolies really do have competition. It can be from substitutions. For example, NetFlicks snail mail delivery of movies competes against high performance broadband. It is not a direct substitute, but it pushes broadband prices down. Some organizations by T1 connections to access providers of the next town. With good consumerism, even two suppliers allow consumers to shape the product. People pay more for homes in regions with more than one access provider.

Unless blocked by regulators and other government favoritism, competitors often enter in special markets and then generalize. Here it is government that keeps them out. Often to keep out competitors, monopolies are forced to improve product or lower prices.

Monopolies are the boogymen used by people who want to control us. People try to scare us into living in fear of monopolies in order to control us. They use big words from economics books without any real understanding. Please don't be a part of that. Please stand for economic freedom.

(And the economic issues don't even touch the moral issues. It is wrong to interfere with honest trade.)
openinternet 1 month ago
Note the fundamental argument of those who want the state to "compensate" for "market failure".

That is: "In my opinion, the market is not offering me what I want at a price I think it should be offered, so the state should FORCE the supplier(s) to provide me what I want, at an acceptable price to me."

The moral dimension of this is dubious at best.
erikcorona 1 month ago
This is plain and simple BS. I have ONE option for an ISP where I live *one*. It's AT&T, which is greedily trying to kill net neutrality. If AT&T starts slowing down Hulu.com (because in their infinite wisdom they want to charge me more for a Hulu Gigabyte as opposed to a Gigabyte from their financial partners), then I have ZERO options. Get that? ZERO. Competition? There is no competition. Think about it guys, how many telcos can you choose from? If you're lucky, you can choose 2 and if you're really lucky you can choose 3. What happens when they all slow Hulu.com down to a crawl or some obscure startup because they can't afford to pay AT&T or COMCAST extortion money?
openinternet 1 month ago
Nonsense.

Anyone in a metropolitan area has at least 3 options for internet access. The local phone company does DSL, the cable provider (usually a local-government-enforced monopoly, by the way), so-called "3G" access - over the cell-phone network.

A relatively new option is satellite internet. Check out Hughes net satellite service, which covers absolutely everywhere. This means that even people in rural areas have at least one option (satellite), and probably at least two. (Check out http://hughesnet.com/)

Are the "other" options more expensive? maybe. It is nonetheless competition.

The fact that this business is profitable guarantees that more players are fighting to offer even more options to customers not currently served, and to take customers from existing ISPs.

Inject government control into this, and that innovation will be stifled. This is a bad idea.

Since when does not having enough choice of options justify government interference in an industry that did not exist 30 years ago? The internet is very useful, but is hardly essential. The "not enough options justifies government mandates" logic has no limits. Should the FTC should be dictating which brands of computers should be carried in stores so everyone gets a "good" choice of computers? Should the government be dictating good selection in grocery stores? Restaurants?

No. Having a free society and private property means not everyone gets what he wants. That's how it works.

Note that the telecommunications market is changing and evolving extremely rapidly. That evolution is caused both by the innovation of the telcos, and also by the freedom customers have to switch between vendors. Any regulation (like net neutrality) will inhibit disfavored vendor innovation, while protecting existing (read: politically connected) vendors. The net result will be the sort of stagnation that will reduce options, and raise prices to consumers, while protecting incumbent vendors.

Net Neutrality is a bad idea. It will not even do what its proponents claim, and will do great damage along the way.
dnmal 15 days ago
I am not sure that your post supports the idea of net neutrality being in danger of regulation and being contolled by impending large corporations like telecoms?? - or supports concerned internet users that voice their passion to monitor special interest groups that when their given the green light will turn something free and open into something segmented and commercial. Its seems there is some of both points of view in the post.
Its true; the net is not really free when everyone pays to use the internet through a ISP but the larger picture in my opinion is communication, through any node ,which is what the net was originally intended to be used for.

From Wikipedia
Network neutrality (also net neutrality, Internet neutrality) is a principle proposed for user access networks participating in the Internet that advocates no restrictions on content, sites, or platforms, on the kinds of equipment that may be attached, and on the modes of communication allowed, as well as communication that is not unreasonably degraded by other traffic.
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