Dar, I have written dissertations refuting your drivel. You claim I and others are calling for violence? This IS A LIE. I will not waste my time with you further. The only sense you made recently had to do with keeping government from getting too powerful. The writers of our constitution, and most of us here calling for net neutrality whole heartedly agree with you. But you can't warn against "big government" and then ignore "big business" which is in fact the real puppet master of the government.
Your HYPOCRISY is fully exposed here.
You don't mind the power of "big business" growing for one logical reason...YOU BELIEVE YOU WILL PROFIT !
So stop lecturing US about freedom when the only freedom you care about is your own.
WE are fighting for our larger more important freedoms, and they are much more valuable than your petty scheme to make a buck.
Your claims have already been shown to be false, and your motives here are clear, Dar.
You do not stand for freedom, you stand for profit. And business does not have the right in America to profit from censorship of the internet. Companies want the ability to control access for one reason only-it will be an easy way to make money. It forces a captive audience for the commercials they so desperately want to sell. Politicians know that control can keep grassroots groups from gaining momentum. (effectively stifling the will of the American people.)
But we both know you already know that. I, and others, have already explained this to you with supporting evidence. I can only conclude that you simply want to spread falsehoods at this point and are ignoring the truth.
All in the name of making a buck? You sue the words "good, honest trade" to describe companies' efforts to create a commodity by BLOCKING what freely is now flowing. This is not honest work, it is extortion.
Once more, and believe me this is the last time I will reply to this,DAR more out of respect to all others who deserve the right to be heard in regard to this issue. Your constant misquoting and refusal to listen to my clarification proves one thing. You are not interested in a civil debate with fellow citizens in this public forum. You, and people like you are far more interested in confusing issues by focusing on nonsensical details which REALLY have NOTHING to do with the very important issue at stake here. America is filled with BULLIES who are trying to shut down the democratic nature of our public forums, town hall meetings, etc with sheer volume. I recognized your tactics for exactly what they are from the beginning. And though I can imagine this bickering back and forth must be irritating to more sensible readers here, I beg their pardon. And offer only this in explanation for my continued rebuttal--It is not for the sake of trying to win this ridiculous pissing contest which has arisen. It is for the sake of all of us who have been drowned out by the LOUD obnoxious BULLIES of the world who all too often win the small battles in life because sensible people simply say to themselves that "this is not worth the fight" and we move back to our peaceful existence. But I am here once again to say that this battle is worth it. I will not repeat the reasons again. I will not bother to explain to Dar how he has misquoted me. I believe he has done so on purpose, because to paint me as some fool who is begging for a handout is much easier than dealing with the real issues we have discussed. So for those who want to stand firm for net neutrality, I say, THANK YOU. To all others Good night and Goodbye.
For those who resort to derision tactics and name calling- there can be only one reason why- you know that logic and reason are on our side as well as TRUTH. And for those who wish to muddy the waters to make the truth less visible, I say you can't fight it for long. Because, as Schopehauer said "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Truth | Arthur Schopenhauer quote
Good point on John McCain! I am soooo glad he didn't win. He is showing where his loyalties lie in this newest power grab for his pals at the net controling companies. It always cracks me up to hear someone say that "markets will regulate themselves." STUDY AMERICAN HISTORY, please! The current state of our economy is proof to the contrary. Are you old enough to remember the Savings and Loan crisis 20 years ago? THAT-ALSO- was a product of de-regulation. And to say that we can't trust the government to protect our fereedoms is un-American! Our nation was founded on the idea that freedom does not protect itself, it does not "just happen naturally" in a market. Again, study American history, please before you come back to this forum with personal attacks against me. Fortunately, this decision is in the hands of much more learned people than we.
For those who seem NOT to understand this point- advocates for net netrality are not trying to force companies to give internet access for free. (ridiculous) BUT- net neutrality will go a long way to keeping your ability to go where you want on the net. The FEW companies who control access are trying to control WHAT YOU CAN DO AND SEE, which will have the effect of altering the ability for organizatoins to connect. The other side of free speech is the implied right to listen to whomever you wish. The job of our governmental bodies is to act on behalf of the citizenry of this country, (this has nothing to do with my bills.) It has to do with what is right for this country. We NEED net neutrality!
Okay, Dar, you touch upon a very valid point, corruption is rampant in America! But I see this as one of the most compelling reasons why net neytrality is a VITAL part of America's future success. I believe the internet has given the little guy in America a voice that he/ she has not had in the previous 200 odd years in our country. And it is about time. We can't trust our own elected officials to vote for what the little guy wants, unless we can prove that that is what MOST of the little guys want. HENCE-Barack Obama. Never would have happened without the internet. And whether you voted for him or not shouldn't matter at all in relation to this point.
Hey Mike Campbell, your logic is like asking why the companies who built our roadways can't decide who travels on them. The companies who upkeep the lines of transmission also make a killing on profits from this business. American citizens have the right to regulate corporations in America. And if one company is tired of making exhorbitant profits in this business, then I am sure there is another just wishing they had the chance.
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